Money & the Hobby

How to think about the money

Every hobby costs something. This one has a few features that make it easy to spend more than you meant to, and almost nobody explains them before you start. This is my attempt to.

Not financial advice. A collector's way of thinking about it, written by someone who got it wrong first.

The short version, if you read nothing else: this is a hobby, and hobbies cost money. That is fine. The trouble starts when it stops being a hobby and starts being a plan to get rich, because that is the version that can reach the parts of your life that actually matter.

01

The pack problem

Ripping packs is fun. It is also built on the same mechanism as gambling, and I think people deserve to hear that plainly rather than discover it from their bank statement.

I am not going to walk through the neuroscience. The part that matters is simple: you pay a small, known amount, and you get back an unpredictable reward. Sometimes nothing. Occasionally something big. That specific pairing, a fixed cost against an uncertain payoff, is one of the most durable reinforcement patterns in the research on learning. It is why the slot machine works. It is also, honestly, a lot of why ripping is enjoyable.

The second thing worth saying: what you see online is not what happens. You are watching a feed of hits because hits are what get posted. Nobody films the box that produced twelve base cards and an insert they already had. Most boxes return base cards and inserts well short of what the box cost. That is the design, not bad luck.

Some people are affected by this a lot more than others, and you do not get to pick which one you are. So it is worth knowing what it looks like when it is going badly:

  • You are spending real money on packs and boxes month after month.
  • What you pull is not holding its value, let alone covering the cost.
  • You regret purchases afterwards, and then buy again anyway.
  • You are mostly chasing the next rip, looking for the one that changes everything.

If that is the pattern, you are going to have a worse time in this hobby than you should, and it is going to cost you.

What I do about it I treat ripping as an occasion rather than a habit. Holidays, birthdays, Thanksgiving. The point is not the specific rule, it is that the decision gets made in advance and not in the moment. Pick an amount, a time, or an event, and let that be the boundary rather than how you feel when you are standing at the counter.
02

Buy the card, not the chance

This is the single biggest structural change most people can make, and it costs nothing to try.

When you buy a pack, you are buying a chance. When you buy a single, you are buying the card. If you know what you actually want, the second one gets it to you for less money and with none of the mechanism described above attached to it.

The approach I would give someone starting out looks a lot like dollar cost averaging. Pick the players, teams, or sets you genuinely care about. Learn what is actually good within that lane and what is worth holding. Then acquire slowly, over time, as you find value. Take care of what you get.

You will still end up with extras. You will rip something at Christmas, or buy a binder off someone and inherit two hundred cards you did not ask for. That is completely fine and it is part of collecting. Just do not confuse it with a strategy. Volume is not a plan, and bulk is not an asset.

03

What "investing" means here

I want to be careful with this word, because it gets used to describe two completely different activities and only one of them deserves it.

Going deep on something specific is a defensible approach. You pick a lane, you learn what is genuinely valuable in it, you understand why certain cards hold and others do not, and you accumulate patiently. That is a long-term posture and it is reasonable.

Buying cases of product and ripping in the hope of pulling this year's most hyped rookie is not that. It is closer to penny stock speculation than to buying blue chips, and I would rather people call it what it is. There is nothing wrong with doing it for fun. There is something wrong with telling yourself it is an investment strategy.

The test I would apply: if your approach depends on a big hit, it is not an investment approach, it is a bet. And if the way you are engaging with the hobby starts to look like chasing, that is worth stopping on, because it is a hard pattern to reverse once money is tied up in it.

The wider point is one I feel strongly about. These are cards. Nothing here should be allowed to damage your finances, your household, or your peace of mind. Do not put your stability on this. If you genuinely want to build a business out of it, that is a real thing people do, but it deserves actual due diligence rather than drift.

04

Valuing a card without fooling yourself

Most disagreements about price are really disagreements about evidence. Learn to build the number and most of the difficulty goes away.

Start with sold, not asking. A listing price is what somebody hopes for. A sold price is what somebody paid. Only the second one is a comp. Sold listings are the first place to look, and the various pricing apps are useful for seeing recent activity in one view.

Expect the data to be thin. For a lot of cards there simply are not many recent sales. When that happens you have to reason across: comparable cards of the same player, the same set, a similar parallel or numbering, adjusted for the differences. That is a legitimate method and it is often the only one available. It is also where most errors enter, so hold the number loosely.

Condition and grade change everything. The same card in different condition is effectively a different item at a different price point. A comp that ignores this is not a comp.

The common mistakes, in roughly the order I see them:

MistakeWhat it does
Quoting one saleThree sales in six months is three anecdotes, not a market price. Use the range, not the best number in it
Quoting the highThe outlier is always the one that gets cited. Somebody was motivated that day
Ignoring timingIn season, out of season, a hot streak, an injury. The same card is a different price in March
Forgetting what comes offPlatform fees, processing, shipping, and tax on any gain. Paper value is not proceeds, and a card that "doubled" is often close to break-even
Valuing at the askWhat you could buy it for and what you could sell it for are two different numbers. Value your collection at the second one

This cuts in both directions, which is the part I care about. You should not be negotiating in bad faith by lowballing someone with evidence you know is weak. You also should not be handing over money because a seller quoted the single highest sale of the year with confidence. Doing the work protects everybody in the transaction, including you.

05

Negotiating, and why it's worth learning

Prices here are set by people, not by a market maker. That means supply and demand, but filtered through whatever the person across the table feels about their own cards.

And they do feel something about them. People are attached to their collections, and attachment tends to inflate what they think something is worth. That is not dishonesty, it is just how owning things works, and it happens to you too. Expect it, do not take it personally, and do not try to talk somebody out of how they feel about their card.

What you can do is bring evidence and stay composed. Decide your number before you are standing in front of the table. Be genuinely willing to walk. Saying no and waiting will not always work: sometimes the card gets more expensive and you miss it, and you have to be at peace with that. The alternative is paying whatever you feel in the moment, every time, which is worse.

In my experience most dealers will meet you somewhere reasonable if you ask and you are not insulting them. A lot of people never ask.

What I got wrong Early on I bought cards I liked at whatever they were priced at. I did not negotiate, I did not bring comps, and I did not set a number beforehand. I just wanted the card. That is the most expensive habit I had, and it was entirely fixable.

One more thing, and it is the reason I would push young people toward this specifically. Learning to research a price, make a case, hear no, and walk away is a genuinely useful life skill. The hobby is a low-stakes place to practice it.

06

Being honest about the number

People consistently underestimate what they spend on the things they enjoy. Not occasionally. Consistently, and in one direction.

This is well established and it is not a character flaw. Spending happens in small pieces across different places and different months, and memory smooths it. If you ask yourself casually what you spend on cards, the answer you produce will be low.

So do not ask casually. Add it up. Actually pull the statements for three months and total it. If that feels uncomfortable, that discomfort is the useful part, and it is information.

The other thing that works is telling someone. A partner, a friend in the hobby, anyone who will hear the real number. Saying it out loud to another person is a much stronger check than deciding privately that it is probably fine.

None of this is about guilt. It is about accuracy. You cannot make a good decision about a number you have never actually looked at.

07

Grading, and why I'm waiting

This is the one place where my day job and my hobby collide, and I have not resolved it yet.

The premise of grading is good. Sorting cards into quality tiers gives the market something stable to price against, so a card is not just worth whatever the two people in the conversation think of its condition. In principle that helps everybody.

But the premise only holds if the grade is reliable, and I mean that in the technical sense. Reliability is whether the same card, in the same condition, receives the same grade every time: across different graders, and across repeat submissions. I evaluate measurement instruments for a living, and that is the first question I would ask of any of them.

What makes me hesitate is that the answer is not published anywhere I can find. And there is a tell: the fact that resubmitting cards in the hope of a better grade is a known, rational strategy tells you something about consistency. If the grade were purely a function of the card, there would be no reason to try again.

I want to be fair about this. I am not accusing anyone of anything, and I am not saying the grading companies are wrong. I am saying the question has not been answered publicly, and it is a question with a clear answer that could be produced and shared. Consistency data would settle it.

The second thing I keep turning over is the pricing. Grading fees scale with the declared value of the card. The work of examining a card is broadly the same whether it is worth forty dollars or four thousand, so I have never understood why the fee should take a cut of the value rather than price the service. I am open to an explanation. I have not heard a convincing one.

So I am on hold. Not a boycott, and not advice to you. If grading makes sense for your cards, run the numbers and do it. I am waiting to see how the reliability question gets answered, because until it does I do not know what I am buying.

08

The bottom line

No single card is going to change your life, and approaching the hobby as though one might is how people get hurt.

It is the same rule that applies in a casino. You do not walk in expecting the jackpot that fixes everything, and you should not be looking for the one pull, the one card, or the one deal that does it here either. The people who enjoy this the longest are the ones who never needed it to.

What has actually changed for the better is that information is available now. You can look up what things sell for. You can bring evidence to a table. You can check somebody's story before you hand over four figures. That is real protection and a lot of people never use it, especially as the dollar amounts climb.

So the summary I would give anyone:

  • Set the budget before you shop, and treat it as a number you would be fine losing entirely.
  • Buy the card, not the chance, and keep ripping to occasions.
  • Go deep rather than wide. Know your lane, accumulate patiently, take care of what you own.
  • Do the research, especially as the numbers get bigger. Show your work to yourself.
  • Negotiate in good faith, in both directions. Do not take advantage, and do not be taken advantage of.
  • Look at what you actually spend, out loud, to somebody.
  • Never make cards your financial stability unless you have deliberately built a business and know exactly what that involves.

This is supposed to be fun. Most of what is above exists so it stays that way.

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